

I heard you play his apology video, but this week on his podcast he said he was happy that that video came to light, and he called it a “political hit job.” He’s made it clear that he doesn’t have any intention of changing what he’s - the lies and hate he spreads on his podcast. He has continued to spread anti-trans hate, racist tropes and sexist remarks on his podcast. When Spotify cut Rogan a $100 million check to come on their platform exclusively, they knew what they were getting. Spotify had to know what he was saying, what they were buying.ĪLEX PATERSON: Absolutely. But can you talk about what he has said over the years, the deal he made with Spotify? I mean, this goes way back.

And, of course, that’s also linked to COVID misinformation. I want to begin with the racism, with the N-word. You’ve said Rogan has 11 million listeners per episode. … Spotify didn’t seem - I mean, I had to take a chance, but they didn’t seem like they were going to censor me in any way.ĪMY GOODMAN: For more, we’re joined by Alex Paterson, senior researcher for the LGBTQ Program at Media Matters and their self-described “Joe Rogan watchdog.” Spotify has given me no pushback whatsoever. PATRICK BET- DAVID: But that’s the part, yeah. And Spotify has asked me to change nothing. JOE ROGAN: That’s just because the world has gotten more controversial. JESSICA KIRSON: Yeah, but you’re not allowed. JOE ROGAN: Did they know that you’re Jewish, though? The watchdog outlet Media Matters published a compilation of times Joe Rogan has spoken about the impunity he operates with at Spotify. In a memo to Spotify workers, Ek wrote, quote, “Canceling voices is a slippery slope,” unquote. But Spotify CEO Daniel Ek has refused to cancel Rogan’s exclusive contract. It is about my integrity and my dignity.ĪMY GOODMAN: Spotify has now deleted scores of past episodes of Rogan’s podcast. … My conversation is not about Joe Rogan. I and other creators are making choices about the space we want to curate. And so, Spotify is making a choice about the space they choose to curate. She said this is not censorship this is about curation - curation meaning choosing what you want in a space, choosing the space you want around you. INDIA ARIE: Censorship is being at the threat of loss of life or freedom for your words. Arie also cited writer Roxane Gay and others in clarifying she wanted Spotify to curate its content, not censor what is on its platform. I haven’t said it in years.ĪMY GOODMAN: In a video response Wednesday, India Arie said she thought some of Rogan’s apology was disingenuous, and added, “Spotify is built on the back of the music streaming, so they take this money that’s built from streaming and they pay this guy $100 million but they pay us 0.003% of a penny?” she said. Now, I know that, to most people, there is no context where a white person is ever allowed to say that word, never mind publicly on a podcast. It’s a video that’s made of clips, taken out of context, of me of 12 years of conversations on my podcast, and it’s all smooshed together, and it looks horrible, even to me. There’s a video that’s out that’s a compilation of me saying the N-word. JOE ROGAN: I’m making this video to talk about the most regretful and shameful thing that I’ve ever had to talk about publicly. Rogan posted an apology video on his Instagram account last weekend in which he addressed the video supercut. ĪMY GOODMAN: Other resurfaced videos show Joe Rogan saying Black people have “different brains” and comparing a neighborhood with “no white people” to the Planet of the Apes. Last Friday, the Grammy-winning singer India Arie joined other artists who have pulled their music from Spotify as she shared a viral video showing Rogan using the N-word on his show two dozen times. I’m Amy Goodman.Ĭalls are growing for the audio-streaming app Spotify to remove Joe Rogan’s podcast from its platform after he promoted misinformation about COVID-19 on his show and as video resurfaced showing Rogan making repeated racist comments.

This is_Democracy Now!_,, The War and Peace Report. Neil Young’s former bandmates have also asked to remove their music from Spotify in protest of Joe Rogan. AMY GOODMAN: “Find the Cost of Freedom” by Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young.
